If you see comments in violation of our rules, please report them. Now either way I think she is an amazing character and I love watching her, but I think she should get some soft moments as well like Eloise does. They simply pointed out that there’s still room for development. In Bridgerton, you have 4 of the major households black (Simon's, Queen, Danbury, Will's). “We put black people IN the show. Bridgerton, whose massive wave of popularity is showing no signs of subsiding, is now Netflix’s biggest series ever by a wide margin.It pushed down to … The single black mother character is such a bad stereotype. I see what you mean about perspective but that’s not what I’m talking about. Bridgerton is more diverse than other historical pieces set in Regency England. Although the role for Marina was open casting and they went with the best actress. I hope so. No. Hi I’m also a black women and I think you might like this video I saw on YouTube. (Queen and Danbury). I can respect your opinion but I do believe there’s a space between having a big storyline and just being monochromatic side character. Each book in this eight book historical romance series features a member of the Bridgerton family. Premiered Dec 25, 2020. Interesting how that perspective never occurred to me. No, I am saying it is not mutually exclusive to want and have diversity and still keep the storylines. If we’re dissatisfied with the representation, then what kind of representation did we truly get? Would his role have generated such discussion? She is introduced very strongly but after a while we notice that she is never explored outside of being the “shamed pregnant” woman. Either way, the point I’m making is not “more black characters”, the point I’m making is more “diverse/feminine black characters”. When you boil it down, Marina is still basically the black single mom who got knocked up and left (before you realize he’s dead). The other households are Featherington, Bridgerton and Cowper. OP didn’t complain. Representation matters. The only way I see fixing this to your satisfaction is to have Daphne be played by a very dark skinned black woman. I COMPLETELY understand why people wanted more for her. Share. She’s just removed. This doesn’t happen with the Black women. Please see our rules for further info. Discussion of the show Bridgerton on Netflix. Premiered Dec 25, 2020. But the reality is the series is not an exact replica of the books. Of the three other "romances" we see 3 … But the reality is the series is not an exact replica of the books. For the most part, the Black women in this show are either insignificant to the overall plot of the story or fall into the “undesirable/unlikeable/unattractive” bunch. Because the porn industry has infected media, that’s why. I’m happy that just seeing Black people in a period piece was enough for some, but there is a season 2 coming, which means plenty of opportunity for Shonda & co to push even further. The queen gets glimpses of character development throughout the season but she doesn’t go through much transformation in the end (hopefully we see it in season 2). This show is based on the Bridgerton book series by Julia Quinn. We can love the show for what it does good and critique it for what it does bad. If he was playing Berbrooke, the show would still be diverse but would it be as impactful? Yes these are side characters and no I don’t expect them to take up the majority of plot, but when characters are given ample screen time, I expect them to have some semblance of a formative arc. There are some things that people can readily believe and accept... and for BIPOCs, there are structural and societal limits to what those things are. It can shape and reinforce cultural beliefs and attitudes about race and ethnicity. Her resolution was also super unsatisfying because of how grim and loveless it was... and this is a romance series! What you’re saying about Asian representation is also absolutely true. She’s seen as being just mean, selfish and shape. It’s better than nothing. This sumptuous Regency-era series is here to cheer us all up. So yeah, they are "tokens." 2 actresses to provide representation versus the 7 actors that are white. It's all about perception. Bridgerton Season 2 Release Date ‘Bridgerton’ season 1 premiered in its entirety on December 25, 2020, on Netflix. I was expecting her to have her Cinderella moment but she basically stayed in the cellar the entire time. The story didn’t even bother explaining to us where she’s going. I think that we can still like the show and the characters while recognizing that some stereotypes and social expectations are still being reinforced. Unlike with the diversity and feminism in Bridgerton, this aspect of the show wasn’t very embellished. American poc viewers may see Marina as a stereotype black single mom, which may not be the case, for instance, for the britsh audience or the rest of the world, where single moms stereotypes are more about class, being poor, than race. Based on Julia Quinn's bestselling "Bridgerton" novels, chronicling the eight Bridgerton siblings as they find true love in British high society in the 1810s, Season 1 … It’s not just about representation, it’s about what these characters symbolize and if they communicate a bad message or are essentially just the “help” to white protagonists, then it’s not really progressive. He is an artist who we learn is gay and wishes he could be with his lover. Of the three other "romances" we see 3 are mixed races. Bridgerton diversity Entertainment entertainment news Netflix New England Cable News January 11, 2021 Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Tumblr Pinterest Reddit VKontakte Odnoklassniki Pocket Skype Messenger Messenger WhatsApp Telegram Viber Line Share via Email Print That shows more self-awareness than the silly “nuh-uh, look at alllll the black people what are you talking about?” responses. Discussion of the show Bridgerton on Netflix. I’m of south East Asian descent so I don’t look like Simone Ashley (I wish) but still this is such a step forward and I’m excited to see what other diversity casting they will … This show would be the perfect medium for expansion. The solution is to not see color, but to acknowledge the negative impact of racist actions has had on those affected, and work towards making things better. Contrary to popular belief, Black people are not happy to just be “invited to the table”. Diversity Recruiting – What it is, and What isn’t Reddit LinkedIn WhatsApp Email ... as the society’s diversity is explained by a storyline within the show. As for Lady Danbury, I love how strong and esteemed she is... but I can see how the portrayal also reinforces the “strong, sassy black woman” stereotype. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We are on your side, now shut up! Season 2 was given the green light on January 21, 2021, which was confirmed by the show’s official Instagram account. It's why Regé as the Duke had such an impact. This show is based on the Bridgerton book series by Julia Quinn. I do suspect this will come in future seasons but I’m not too sure. Premiered Dec 25, 2020. Prior to … More posts from the BridgertonNetflix community. Premiered Dec 25, 2020. Once again, and I can’t stess this enough, it’s okay to like the show and like the characters. The closest that comes to being seen as “desirable” and “relevant” to the story is Marina who eventually falls into the “single woman who don’t need no man” trope. Thank you for such a great response. Now while you may think “who cares about being likable or attractive” just think of how Daphne the heroine is portrayed. I wouldn’t have bothered with the Queen if they hadn’t mentioned George’s dementia. One can simply say: “Hmm, I didn’t look at it that way. Bridgerton wants to have Black characters while handwaving the reality of racism. But people who jump to defend something that isn’t under attack are not as “woke” as they believe themselves to be. She essentially has no arc. "Are there no good black men?". Marina is desirable up until her character creates social suicide and her “complexity“ as you’ve described still leads the character no where. Each book in this eight book historical romance series features a member of the Bridgerton family. They continue to play the same roles over and over with no room for growth. Even Granville has layers to him that get explored in increments that are important to the plot, however minor they are at first. Also, I think diversity seen through US p.o.v. Where does she want to fit into society? I know they are not the main characters but I think you could have cut one of Daphne’s and the Dukes MANY sex scenes to develop some of these characters even a little. England is 3% Black. Just as you were explaining it, it became clear that Marina’s story and her trauma just became a gateway for Daphne to both find resolution and still be the “white savior”. I don't feel like black women have just been token characters. The other households are Featherington, Bridgerton and Cowper. The story primarily revolves around them. I just want to comment to say that I hear you on this, as a Black woman I was a little dissatisfied and felt the diverse casting was little more than surface level. As someone earlier in the thread brilliantly stated, you don’t even see these women sharing a kiss with anyone. We don’t see them overcome struggles or come to great enlightenments. Just the fact that you said the whole show would change if Daphne was Black proves that “color” is always part of the conversation even when it’s not. What has been interesting in this post is seeing how blindly people expose themselves in terms of their social awareness. is different from seeing from, for instance, UK's p.o.v. As a businessperson I’m sure you’ve come across papers/critical reviews of works before and this is what that is. This show is based on the Bridgerton book series by Julia Quinn. We are having discussions and there is nothing wrong with that. They then use her to be a reflection for Daphne to learn from. Well, well, well. For me, it sucks to see an Asian woman as a meek sidekick or crazy dragon lady in a show that isn’t just entirely Asian or about Asian culture. I was hoping we would get a glimpse of some “multidimensionality” with Will and his wife but their plot ended up being really inconsequential as it was kind of shoveled in last minute. This is my least favorite kind of racial condescension. The Queen and Danbury Having power is essentially irrelevant because in the end power doesn’t make them multi dimensional. During the 18th century, London had an extremely organized subculture of gay men meeting at private events to socialize and sleep with other men. It can't possibly be held accountable or a magic touch for the past wrongdoings of American culture and history. Bridgerton review: Netflix’s romantic period drama is an utter joy. I don’t really know how I could further explain this because it really runs so much deeper than just having more than one black female character. They’re all right where they started. When they first introduced her as being super desirable and charming, it was like “Oh, a challenger has arrived!” She could’ve been Daphne’s competition and filled Cressida’s role with the Prince... but instead, they chose to reinforce negative stereotypes and went with the unplanned pregnancy route in order to expose the Bridgerton girls’ naivety with respect to how babies are made and then later as a “scandal” to bring Daphne and Simon back to London so they could have their respective maternal figures guide them toward resolving their marital dispute. compare to indians born in India - they're the same race/colour but different cultures and experiences. Basically best person cast. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Would they have children (who are alive and are seen on camera). Like why don’t we see her being occasionally soft like Violet Bridgerton? Wealth, lust, and betrayal set against the backdrop of Regency-era England, seen through the eyes of the powerful Bridgerton family. In actuality It’s not about gratitude, it’s about exploring racial implications. [Editor’s Note: The following contains light spoilers for Julia Quinn’s “Bridgerton” series of novels, elements of which might wind up in Season 2 of the show.] They go about this through courtship and marriage (and by attending many balls). It’s about making distinguishable characters that are unique and engaging. The point is that these Black women are all merely plot devices for the story and act as either supporters or antagonists to the main characters. Already he has more to look for than Danbury does. What can we learn about Diversity & Inclusion in the Netflix series “Bridgerton”? Thank you, I am not American, and I find it unfair the discussions always end up around the race and not the storyline or journey of the character while the show is obviously trying to be more diverse and inclusive. Tokenism in relation to black women relate to things that you see white women experiencing that black women don’t such as desirability or loving families. Renewed for Season 2! Or say nothing at all. The females are creative, courageous, intelligent, and honorable. When you criticize Marina or her storyline people are ready to point their finger at you, ready to call you racist and such all the while you don't think or have the same stereotypes they assume you do. I can understand your point about the demographic implications of having an all black cast but movies/productions like Black Panther and Hamilton prove that it can be done well and still be successful. And if you had Simon be played by a white actor then people would be complaining because how come the black woman is marrying a white man. I only see the struggles of a woman in a time period where toxic masculinity and patriarchy were dominant and I am pretty sure that was the main story the show was telling.
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